Eighty-five episodes. Every bit of our corporate trauma, corporate drama and corporate hang-ups, poured out on the mic. And now? We're done. In the best way.
In our final episode, Mandy Alt and Mandy Holt hash out, live and unscripted, why we're ending The Corporate Burnouts Podcast. The short version: it worked. This show was our therapy. Our guests taught us more than we ever expected, we took the tools and used them, and somewhere along the way our lives changed so much that talking about corporate burnout stopped feeling like our story. We talk about tying our identity to the podcast, putting fun first, why we refuse to fake caring about a topic, and why we'd rather leave the room while you still want us there. Plus: a possible Corporate Burnouts Facebook group, and we need your vote.
In this episode, we talk about:
Why we're ending The Corporate Burnouts Podcast after 85 episodes
How this podcast became our therapy session
Why ending it feels like "graduating" from therapy
Our guests were the real therapists
When something stops feeling authentic to your life
How we changed our lives during this podcast
Putting fun first (without dropping the ball on work)
Your accomplishments are not your identity
Realizing we'd tied our identity to being podcasters
Leaving the room while people still want you there
Why we won't fake caring about a topic just to fill an episode
The boat day that started the whole conversation
Why most podcasts never make it to 10 episodes, and why 85 is something to be proud of
Sometimes you just need someone to give you permission
A Corporate Burnouts Facebook group: do you want one?
Why we never told other people's stories on air
We're all the villain in somebody's story
Being grateful for the corporate years that got us here
Key takeaways
Leave while it's still good. You don't have to wait until something is broken to walk away. Ending on a high note, while you're proud of the work and people still want more, is a choice, not a failure.
Authenticity is the line. When the thing you're doing stops matching the life you're living, it starts to feel fake, even if every word is true. That's your sign to check in with yourself.
Your accomplishments are not your identity. A title, a business or even a podcast can quietly become who you think you are. Untangling your sense of self from what you produce is what makes it possible to let go.
Fun has to be a priority too. Work-life balance isn't about splitting things perfectly. Both work and fun have to be priorities, on purpose, or work will take all of it.
There's always more than one side. Your perspective is your truth, but it isn't the only one. Honoring that is why some stories are better left untold.
Chapters
00:00 Welcome back: one more late-night flight
01:10 Why driving five hours beats a bad connection
02:08 "How did we do this for fun?"
03:23 A weekend at the job site
03:40 The love letter on social media
05:23 Watching someone stay calm under pressure
06:39 The lace safety vest
07:38 No burnout, no airplane cries
08:04 Homecoming weekend and an accidental parade
10:03 Homecoming pictures at the park
12:18 Spray tans gone wrong
14:55 Big news: we're ending the podcast
15:49 We've talked about it all
16:19 This podcast was our therapy
16:48 It's like quitting therapy: you have the tools now
17:17 Listeners who quit their jobs because of this show
17:57 How the conversation started three months ago
19:24 We changed our lives during this podcast
19:52 Personal life over work life
20:03 "It doesn't feel like my life anymore"
20:47 Our guests were the real therapists
21:32 Putting fun first
22:00 Work and fun both have to be priorities
22:36 Your accomplishments are not your identity
23:13 The journal prompt: I tied my identity to this podcast
23:31 Holding on to the podcaster title
24:11 Leave the room while they still want you there
25:24 Lived experience vs. just doing research
26:06 We won't fake caring about a topic
26:18 Diving into our passions (and the woo-woo stuff)
27:30 Could we podcast together again someday?
28:10 Honoring the ending
28:27 85 episodes and the one we skipped to go boating
28:53 The boat week is when it all started
29:28 This is exactly how a podcast should end
29:54 Sometimes you need someone to give you permission
30:20 Should we start a Corporate Burnouts Facebook group?
31:47 Our listeners are the coolest people
32:11 Letting the community live on
33:17 Sad, proud and healed
33:46 Need this? Start your own podcast
34:14 We never told your stories
35:10 Perspective is everything
35:32 We're all the villain in somebody's story
35:45 Grateful for our corporate years
36:02 Packing our lives full of joy
36:28 Final goodbye
Your challenge this week
One last one from us: give yourself permission. Pick one afternoon this week, log off early and go do something fun, no justification required. Then tell us in the comments, and vote in the poll if you want a Corporate Burnouts Facebook group. If even 10 of you want it, we'll start it.
What's next: This is our final episode, but all 85 episodes are still here whenever you need them. Thank you for listening, sharing your stories and growing with us.
FAQs
Why is The Corporate Burnouts Podcast ending? Because it did what it was supposed to do. Mandy Alt and Mandy Holt used the show to work through their own corporate burnout, and along the way they changed their lives so much that corporate burnout isn't their daily story anymore. Rather than fake it or run out of genuine things to say, they chose to end the show on a high note after 85 episodes.
Will there be new episodes of The Corporate Burnouts Podcast? Not right now. Episode 85 is the final episode, but all 85 episodes are still available to listen to. Mandy and Mandy haven't ruled out podcasting together again someday, and if enough listeners want it, they'll start a Corporate Burnouts Facebook group to keep the community going.
How do you know when it's time to let go of something you love? Pay attention to when it stops feeling authentic to the life you're living. If you have to put yourself in a completely different headspace to show up for it, or you'd have to fake caring to keep it going, that's a sign. Leaving while you're still proud of it, and while people still want you there, is better than staying until it runs its course.
Why is it so hard to walk away from something that's part of your identity? Because titles, businesses and accomplishments can quietly become who we think we are. Mandy Alt realized she'd held on to the podcast a little longer because she didn't want to stop being a podcaster. Separating who you are from what you produce is what makes it possible to walk away without feeling like you've lost yourself.
What should listeners do now that the podcast is ending? Keep having the conversations. Mandy Holt encourages anyone who still needs this to start talking it through out loud, even by starting a podcast of their own, because working through it yourself is how real change happens. The full back catalog is still available, and listeners can vote for a Corporate Burnouts Facebook group to share wins, work struggles and permission to go have fun.